Custom keyboard layout with Windows 10
Trying get my custom layout (made with Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator 1.4) working with Windows 10.
Officially MKLC supports up to Windows 7 (and it worked for me with Windows 7), there are some posts about using it successfully with Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 (e.g. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-desktop/how-to-install-custom-klc-file-for-keyboard-layout/1651871e-cf33-4888-abc9-f7980b3c1cd0), but neither works for me with Windows 10.
The layout is installed successfully and even listed among keyboards to add, however when I try to use it, the preview is greyed out and keyboard icon does not appear in notification area (system tray), even though I have two keyboard layouts in my configuration.
Further I change registry key for the layout, as suggested in the article referred above and . the custom layout is no longer listed!
Someone succeeded in making custom keyboard layout working under Windows 10?
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I have tested Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator 1.4 under Windows 10 Pro. Installed my custom keyboard layout successfully and I can use it for typing. It also shows in the Language bar. Only the issue I face is that «Preview» is greyed out. I have not changed any registry settings though.
Microsoft should update this tool to add official Windows 10 compatibility. Very useful tool! Also in my opinion, this tool should be integrated with Windows just like «Character Map» or «Private Character Editor» tool.
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I have just experimented and found a way to do this:
In the Language section of the Control Panel you can click Advanced Settings and activate «Use the desktop language bar when available». Then you have to have specified a language for the custom keyboard that you don’t use otherwise (setting it up as German (Liechtenstein) in lieu of my normal German (Germany) did the trick for me) and only then you can call it up in the language bar. I still can’t set up keyboard shortcuts to access my layout but I can remove the language bar afterwards.
Anyway, I hope there are easier ways of doing this (there really should be, what’s the point of removing support that existed in Win7?). Please answer to let me know if you find any or if any Support Engineer actually has anything to add to this discussion. 🙂
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Actually MKLC 1.4 files work fine with Windows 10. Indeed, language bar disappears, after you change keyboard layout to the custom one. But, once you log off and and then log on again the language bar re-appears, and everything works great. The only minor nuisance is that there is no preview in language settings, but I can happily live without that 🙂
An alternative: Keyboard Layout Manager. Works with Windows 10, despite it isn’t mentioned there. It can duplicate an existing dll and modify it. This time the layout preview works, but there is no installer, therefore porting it to another computer isn’t straightforward. Also I didn’t try Keyboard Layout Manager with «dead» keys
(MKLC supports them OK).
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Windows 10 is now listed as being supported for MKLC1.4
Looking at https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=22339&ppud=4 it says for Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator 1.4 under »Requirements«: »Supported Operating Systems: Windows Server 2003, Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1, Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows XP Service Pack 1, Windows XP Service Pack 2« – This list seems out of date (Windows 7, possibly 8), but where exactly did you see Windwos 10 mentioned?
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I cannot find the source I used to make that claim, Fritz. I know I didn’t make it up out of thin air but since it does not come up readily via ‘net searches, I have to withdraw the claim. Sorry.
I just downloaded and installed 1.4 and looked at the help. The latest supported version mentioned is Vista. I have not tried it yet on Win10.
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I tried the »Liechtenstein« trick, adding this version of German plus automatically the Swiss keyboard that comes with »Deutsch Liechtensten«.
Then I tried to run the setup.exe out of the »Build DLL and setup package« by MSKLC (which I still have from my older computers). Normally this setup.exe ends with »Installation Complete« (for a » … setup package« and more see http://blogabissl.blogspot.de/2013/09/tastaturtreiber-andern-ab-windows-vista.html – German!).
In my new Windows 10 setup just starts, quickly displays something, too fast to see, and disappears with apparently nothing done. (When I »test« setup, Win 10 »succeeds« by telling me »Incompatible Program«.)
Later I saw an error message popup telling me that setup hadn’t found the downloaded keyboard files, and I »tried again« in this error popup, and setup succeeded!
(Only) after restarting Windows I saw the newly added keyboard (»Deutsch — custom«), I added it to »Liechtenstein«, and removed the Swiss keyboard there. In the task line I now can choose between 1. German with »Deutsch« keyboard, 2. German with »Custom« keyboard, and 3. Liechtenstein-German with »Custom«. So I might not even had needed »Liechtenstein«. (With the banking secrets gone, there’s no need anymore for the Principality, except for its 2000 cityzens … )
The custom keyboard now successfully acts in Win 10.
Let’s type and see. My dear «french» and … signs work. But will the function keys be affected? (No). And how do I become «TrustedInstaller» to get to my system files, just in case? But that’s another bureaucratic hindrance.
MSKLC under Windows 10: Create custom keyboard layout which supports IME(input method) for Chinese and combined input in Spanish
I have created a custom keyboard layout with Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator 1.4 in Windows 10. I have set the language to be Simplified Chinese.
After installing the layout and restart, I found it working: it’s listed under «Control Panel» — «Time, language and regions» — «Language» — «Language settings», under language Chinese, listed in the section «Input method», along with Microsoft Pinyin. It’s name «unavailable input method», and I cannot preview the layout like others, but if I change my layout to it with Win+Space, I get desired output as I press the keys. That’s great.
The layout is like this:
As you may have noticed, this keyboard layout contains Latin letter, including some Spanish special punctuation symbols and characters like Euro symbol. I designed this layout in order to enable three language input: English, Chinese and Spanish, as well as punctuation and special letters, such as «á», «ü» and so on.
Here comes the question:
1. It does not permit combined input, such as «press ¨ and u gets you ü», which is possible with native Spanish layout. If I press «AltGr+VK_6» and «u», it only gives me «¨u».
2. I don´t know how to input Chinese with it. In Microsoft Pinyin, when you press shift, you can type in English, and when you press shift again, you will be typing Chinese pinyin, but this keyboard layout lacks this. Also, in MS Pinyin, for keys as `»`, `.` and `,`, when typed in Chinese mode, they give you `“”`, `。` and `，`(full length Chinese punctuation). But this keyboard layout is unable to switch to Chinese pinyin mode, even is set to be a Chinese input.
Is it possible to type Chinese pinyin AND Chinese punctuation with this? Can I substitute the MS Pinyin´s English part with this new layout, or may I add the Chinese pinyin part to my layout? Is this permitted and possible?
As this post suggests, it may be possible with DLL substitution. Am I supposed to do that?
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